[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer plugin - a guick fix guide

[bpa]

The ugly truth is that I am not interested in the BBC iPlayer per se.
What I am trying to l do is to get a clue about getting rtmp streams to
play on my squeezebox. I was looking for leads, and thought the patched
iPlayer could be a way to do this, and to maybe learn at the same time
something about the guts of LMS.

There are multiple standards which are called or use rtmp - which one
are you referring to ?


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[bpa]

I don't know about standards of rtmp to answer directly; I can only
refer you to the example
rtmp://liveRadio.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi which is the
"European Service" of Radio Cairo. It is the third row on the right
column of the Egyptian radio player at
http://egradio.eg/our_extentions/egplayer/
I know how to listen to it on the website (obviously), to record it and
to schedule recordings of it using rtmpdump and Windows tasks, but to
stream it to the squeezebox radio live from LMS, NO, and I'd love to
figure it out.
Thank you in advance.
gc

It is Flash audio. Flash requires specific setup (e.g. swf player) and
there is no generic plugin for LMS.

If you give the commandline you use with rtmpdump - I might be able to
create relevant custom-types / custom-convert.conf file for you to play
the stream using rtmpdump through LMS.


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[bpa]

OK - I found ar post on another forum by a GeorgeC who used.

Code:
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rtmpdump -r rtmp://liveRadio.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi -W http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/player.swf -p http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi.html -v -e -y livestream -o Euro.flv

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1. To play the stream you can use ffplay (part of ffmpeg installation).


Code:
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ffplay -rtmp_app ElBernamegElOrobi -rtmp_playpath livestream -rtmp_live live -rtmp_swfverify http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/player.swf -rtmp_swfurl http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/player.swf -rtmp_pageurl http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi.html -rtmp_tcurl rtmp://liveRadio.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi -i rtmp://liveRadio.onlinehorizons.net:1935/ElBernamegElOrobi

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Save to a "normal" MP3 file (called out.mp3) or could be transcoded into
other format or streamed using stdout into say LMS.

Code:
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ffmpeg -rtmp_app ElBernamegElOrobi -rtmp_live live -rtmp_playpath livestream -rtmp_swfverify http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/player.swf -rtmp_swfurl http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/player.swf -rtmp_pageurl http://lr.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi.html -i rtmp://liveRadio.onlinehorizons.net/ElBernamegElOrobi -f mp3 out.mp3

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2 . I've tried to use same params with BBCiPlayer (which uses base64
encoding of the various params so it can be internally passed
transparently) but connection request is being rejected - not sure why
?

Code:
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rtmp://liveRadio.onlinehorizons.net:1935?streamname=bGl2ZXN0cmVhbQ==&app=RWxCZXJuYW1lZ0VsT3JvYmk=&live=MQ==&swfurl=aHR0cDovL2xyLm9ubGluZWhvcml6b25zLm5ldC9wbGF5ZXIuc3dm&tcurl=cnRtcDovL2xpdmVSYWRpby5vbmxpbmVob3Jpem9ucy5uZXQvRWxCZXJuYW1lZ0VsT3JvYmk=&.mp3

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I'll look at this later and compare to workign streams.


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[bpa]

I found the problem - the BBCiPlayer RTMP implementation didn't support
the "pageUrl" parameter which is required by your station but not BBC.


Try the following.
1. Install the latest version of BBCiPlayer using the following repo:
HTTP://DOWNLOADS.SOURCEFORGE.NET/PROJECT/BPAPLUGINS/V154TESTRELEASE-REPO.XML

2. Replace the RTMP.pm file by the attached RTMP.pm file which has a mod
to support "pageUrl"

3. Stop and Restart LMS

4. Add the following as a favorite (single URL)
RTMP://LIVERADIO.ONLINEHORIZONS.NET:1935?STREAMNAME=BGL2ZXN0CMVHBQ==&APP=RWXCZXJUYW1LZ0VST3JVYMK=&LIVE=MQ==&SWFURL=AHR0CDOVL2XYLM9UBGLUZWHVCML6B25ZLM5LDC9WBGF5ZXIUC3DM&TCURL=CNRTCDOVL2XPDMVSYWRPBY5VBMXPBMVOB3JPEM9UCY5UZXQVRWXCZXJUYW1LZ0VST3JVYMK=&PAGEURL=AHR0CDOVL2XYLM9UBGLUZWHVCML6B25ZLM5LDC9FBEJLCM5HBWVNRWXPCM9IAS5ODG1S&.MP3

5.Try playing the new Favorite.


This mod works OK on a Linux system but I know there are "issues" with
BBCiPlayer on some Windows systems so there may be a long delay before
audio starts.
This mod will not work with a player which has the BBCiPlayer App
installed (i.e. players with native "rtmp").
I think this mod should work with the
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml
repo but I have not tested it.


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[George_C]

BPA,

I am horrified. For reasons I can't explain, I didn't see your last two
messages which were direct responses to me. I am sorry, and extend my
sincere apology. I did not yet implement the fixes you provided but
will let you know as soon as I do, with (probably) more questions.

Thank you a lot.

gc


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[George_C]

BPA,,, You Are a Genius. Thank you SO Much. This problem had been
bugging me for a long time and you solved it. Thank you again

I will try to do the same with other rtmp streams. If I stumble, I will
ask again.

Post by bpa
This mod works OK on a Linux system but I know there are "issues" with
BBCiPlayer on some Windows systems so there may be a long delay before
audio starts.

My LMS is running on a NAS (QNAP TS212P) which runs a flavor of Linux.
And yes, there was a 16 second delay. Is that "long" ?

Post by bpa
This mod will not work with a player which has the BBCiPlayer App
installed (i.e. players with native "rtmp").

I have both the BBC App (installed via mysqueezebox.com) and the BBC
iPlayer and your mod still works. !!!!

Thanks again

gc


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[bpa]

Post by George_C
My LMS is running on a NAS (QNAP TS212P) which runs a flavor of Linux.
And yes, there was a 16 second delay. Is that "long" ?

That is huge -I don't know the reason. - stream starts quickly for me
ona Ubuntu system but I can't help as I didn't do RTNP implementation.

Post by George_C
I have both the BBC App (installed via mysqueezebox.com) and the BBC
iPlayer and your mod still works. !!!!

the mysqueezebox.com BBC App is not the 3rd party BBCiPlayer App.


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[George_C]

Post by bpa
That is huge -I don't know the reason. - stream starts quickly for me
ona Ubuntu system but I can't help as I didn't do RTNP implementation.

That 16 second delay was really exceptional. Now more like 4 secs,
sometimes less. However several times I got 'Connection reset by
remote host'



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Post by bpa
I found the problem - the BBCiPlayer RTMP implementation didn't support
the "pageUrl" parameter which is required by your station but not BBC.
Try the following.
HTTP://DOWNLOADS.SOURCEFORGE.NET/PROJECT/BPAPLUGINS/V154TESTRELEASE-REPO.XML
2. Replace the RTMP.pm file by the attached RTMP.pm file which has a mod
to support "pageUrl"
3. Stop and Restart LMS
4. Add the following as a favorite (single URL)
RTMP://LIVERADIO.ONLINEHORIZONS.NET:1935?STREAMNAME=BGL2ZXN0CMVHBQ==&APP=RWXCZXJUYW1LZ0VST3JVYMK=&LIVE=MQ==&SWFURL=AHR0CDOVL2XYLM9UBGLUZWHVCML6B25ZLM5LDC9WBGF5ZXIUC3DM&TCURL=CNRTCDOVL2XPDMVSYWRPBY5VBMXPBMVOB3JPEM9UCY5UZXQVRWXCZXJUYW1LZ0VST3JVYMK=&PAGEURL=AHR0CDOVL2XYLM9UBGLUZWHVCML6B25ZLM5LDC9FBEJLCM5HBWVNRWXPCM9IAS5ODG1S&.MP3
5.Try playing the new Favorite.
This mod works OK on a Linux system but I know there are "issues" with
BBCiPlayer on some Windows systems so there may be a long delay before
audio starts.
This mod will not work with a player which has the BBCiPlayer App
installed (i.e. players with native "rtmp").
I think this mod should work with the
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml
repo but I have not tested it.

Hello again bpa,

Your fix worked for a long time, but several months ago it stopped
working. I don't know what exactly happened. Yesterday, I reinstalled
the BBCiPlayer (now v2.0.0) and replaced RTMP.pm with your version. But
that still doesn't work. Can you suggest a checklist of things to
look for?

Thx


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[bpa]

Post by George_C
Hello again bpa,
Your fix worked for a long time, but several months ago it stopped
working. I don't know what exactly happened. Yesterday, I reinstalled
the BBCiPlayer (now v2.0.0) and replaced RTMP.pm with your version. But
that still doesn't work. Can you suggest a checklist of things to
look for?
Thx

This thread is dead, it refers the 1.3.x and should not be used for
anything and I tend to ignore it.

Please open a separate thread for your own special application to
continue this conversation as I cannot remember off hand what it is
about.

Old version of the BBCiplayer plugin will disappear - so I cannot
guarantee support for old version. V2.1.0 of the BBCIplayer plugin is
the latest. Use this URL.
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/bpaplugins/betarelease-repo.xml

Changes to RTMP between version cannot be guaranteed but since the RTMP
code is not being maintained I doubt if the problem is with the
BBCiPlayer.

Have you compared the URLs of your station to see if they have changed ?


Please please - start a new thread of your own..


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[bpa]

PLEASE DO NOT POST TO THIS THREAD - THE VERSION IT REFERS TO IS DEAD AND
NO LONGER SUPPORTED
Post any BBCiPlayer queries to this thread

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109826-BBCiPlayer-V1-6-(and-higher)-amp-BBCiPlayerExtra-2-0-(and-higher)-Support


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[bpa]

I am curious as to why you used the Code I posted on the Applian forum
over a year ago over the code I posted in this forum just over a month
ago? The reason I updated is because of changes to the egradio.eg site.
I suppose they still both work.
The question I posted on the Applian forum was never properly addressed.
If you can help there, it would be gratefully appreciated

Please repeat the question here - I'm not going to hunt for a post
amongst a load of other posts which I found by accident.

I tried this code but so far without success. I will try to work it out
on my own.

I just retested it works OK on my system. My ffplay version is "ffplay
version 3.3.3-2~ubuntu16.04.1~ppa1 Copyright (c) 2003-2017"

Version of ffmpeg/ffplay, how it is built, OS and system hardware can
all affect playback.

But still many radio stations are still using rtmp, hence my
interest......

Most stations now have non Flash alternatives since flash will not play
on Apple phones and they will lose a big market with a flash only
stream.

If you have any idea how to play rtmp streams in desktop players such as
vlc, hints and clues would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry, I don't spend time on flash as it is dead end and a big pain as
there are often security measures and other weirdness. All I did was
copy an example use of ffplay. To use vlc etc. find an example - but how
a player is built, and the uderlying OS etc can all effect its ability.


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[George_C]

Thank you for all your help. I'll get back to you after trying more
things and if I get stuck.

gc


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[Zoltan]

Earlier today, I noticed that the Listen Again programmes on all
stations stop in the early hours of Sunday morning. e.g. on R4 the
latest programme I see is Profile at 5:45 am. Other stations stop
earlier.

I have tried restarting my server but still see the same. The log is
showing entries such as:


Code:
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[17-11-24 20:30:50.1348] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 10017 ms
[17-11-24 20:39:30.4052] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 5031 ms
[17-11-24 20:42:03.6306] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 5033 ms
[17-11-24 20:44:48.2443] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555316 streamtime=972
[17-11-24 20:44:48.5726] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555316 streamtime=972
...
[17-11-24 20:46:48.5889] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555519 streamtime=889
[17-11-24 20:46:48.5961] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555519 streamtime=889
[17-11-24 20:48:00.0614] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 5022 ms
[17-11-24 20:56:48.5845] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568
[17-11-24 20:56:48.5873] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568
[17-11-24 20:56:48.6047] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568
[17-11-24 20:56:48.6075] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568

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Is it just me? Any ideas?

Thanks.


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Post by Zoltan
Earlier today, I noticed that the Listen Again programmes on all
stations stop in the early hours of Sunday morning. e.g. on R4 the
latest programme I see is Profile at 5:45 am. Other stations stop
earlier.
I have tried restarting my server but still see the same.
I am able to listen to the entries that are listed and live BBC is
working fine.

Code:
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Post by Zoltan

Post by Zoltan
[17-11-24 20:30:50.1348] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 10017 ms

[17-11-24 20:39:30.4052] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 5031 ms
[17-11-24 20:42:03.6306] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 5033 ms
[17-11-24 20:44:48.2443] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555316 streamtime=972
[17-11-24 20:44:48.5726] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555316 streamtime=972
...
[17-11-24 20:46:48.5889] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555519 streamtime=889
[17-11-24 20:46:48.5961] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555519 streamtime=889
[17-11-24 20:48:00.0614] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::DASH::__ANON__ (732) Chunk fetch status 200 Long chunk fetch time 5022 ms
[17-11-24 20:56:48.5845] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568
[17-11-24 20:56:48.5873] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568
[17-11-24 20:56:48.6047] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568
[17-11-24 20:56:48.6075] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor (543) Invalid estimated delay 1511555440 streamtime=1568

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Post by Zoltan
Is it just me? Any ideas?
Thanks.It isn't just you. I see the same.

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Post by Zoltan
Earlier today, I noticed that the Listen Again programmes on all
stations stop in the early hours of Sunday morning. e.g. on R4 the
latest programme I see is Profile at 5:45 am. Other stations stop
earlier.

Same here. BBC iPlayer Extra still working (today's editions of all
programmes found) but the schedule feed for BBC iPlayer looks dead.

BBC IPlayer v1.5.4.5

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.1 - 1511211491 @ Tue Nov 21 06:40:13
UTC 2017
Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8
Platform Architecture: armv7l-linux
Perl Version: 5.20.2 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int
Audio::Scan: 0.95
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)



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[bpa]

As a general point - this is not the thread to report issues with
versions 1.5.* of the BBCiplayer plugin.

That said, the problem is the BBC feed noththe plugin - while BBC is
still supplying the On-Demand feeds for all station - the content of
feeds has not been updated since about 3am 24-Nov 17. This is likely
to be a problem in BBC system which IIRC is maintained by 3rd parties.


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Thanks bpa - is waiting the only option?


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Post by martinshaw
Thanks bpa - is waiting the only option?

Yes - AFAIK. BBC used to have forums/nmessageboards which let users
provide feedback and notify them about service outages. BBC then
"improved" customer services by removing them.

IIRC, this feed is run by a 3rd party driven off BBC databases. Whenever
problems occured with it took a 1-2 working days to get it fixed. I
believe the XML feeds that the BBCiPlayer plugin uses is an official
vendor feed and in principle should be maintained. There may only few
vendors using these feeds and so BBC will not know about the issue -
hopefully somebody like Systemline who have a proper vendor relationship
with BBC may report the issue on behalf of their customers.


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Post by bpa
Yes - AFAIK. BBC used to have forums/nmessageboards which let users
provide feedback and notify them about service outages. BBC then
"improved" customer services by removing them.
IIRC, this feed is run by a 3rd party driven off BBC databases. Whenever
problems occured with it took a 1-2 working days to get it fixed. I
believe the XML feeds that the BBCiPlayer plugin uses is an official
vendor feed and in principle should be maintained. There may only few
vendors using these feeds and so BBC will not know about the issue -
hopefully somebody like Systemline who have a proper vendor relationship
with BBC may report the issue on behalf of their customers.

..... just hoping that the few vendors have not come to their own
arrangment with the bbc ..... this plugin with the listen again is
probably my main daily "media experience" cant imagine not having it to
hand :(


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[florca]

Hi - There's a message on the iPlayer Radio Help page here:

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen-later

as follows:


Code:
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*** Thursday 16 November ***

We're aware that Listen Later is not working for some people across several devices. Those affected are seeing the following error message: "There's been an error and your Listen Later items cannot be retrieved. Please try again later."

We're looking into this and we'll update this FAQ with any further information.
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My guess is that they may have done something to try to fix that issue
which has broken the feeds used by us? I've reported the problem via the
"Contact Us" button on the page but on previous experience don't expect
much will come of it.

Phil



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Post by florca
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen-later

Code:
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Post by florca

Post by florca
*** Thursday 16 November ***

We're aware that Listen Later is not working for some people across several devices. Those affected are seeing the following error message: "There's been an error and your Listen Later items cannot be retrieved. Please try again later."
We're looking into this and we'll update this FAQ with any further information.

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Post by florca
My guess is that they may have done something to try to fix that issue
which has broken the feeds used by us? I've reported the problem via
the "Contact Us" button on the page but on previous experience don't
expect much will come of it.
Phil

At least they have acknowledged a fault but the date does not match so
not sure if this is the same fault. There is nothing in blog to
indicate any change in feed operation or functionality so it looks like
a problem with the feed. As I said before, I believe the implementation
of this feed was outsourced when it was implemented maybe 5-6 years ago.
Lets hope there is a maintenance contract but it is unlikely original
developers are around, so some poor person is having to go into old code
and figure what has happened (i.e. what was broken by BBC over the
weekend - BBC likes doing new code at weekends) and then fix it. A
couple of days at least.


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Post by bpa
At least they have acknowledged a fault but the date does not match so
not sure if this is the same fault.

Agreed, don't think that what they're talking about in that post is the
same issue, but possible that an attempt to fix the problem may have
broken our feed? They're also acknowledging a fault to Listen Live dated
Monday 27th Nov, posted here:

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/radio/internet_radio

which does indictate that they're making changes, with possible
unintended collateral damage...



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[harrys]

Hi, Thanks for the link/update ..... I've contacted them as well ....
for what its worth :)

Post by florca
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen-later

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Post by florca

Post by florca
*** Thursday 16 November ***

We're aware that Listen Later is not working for some people across several devices. Those affected are seeing the following error message: "There's been an error and your Listen Later items cannot be retrieved. Please try again later."
We're looking into this and we'll update this FAQ with any further information.

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Post by florca
My guess is that they may have done something to try to fix that issue
which has broken the feeds used by us? I've reported the problem via
the "Contact Us" button on the page but on previous experience don't
expect much will come of it.
Phil

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Post by harrys
Hi, Thanks for the link/update ..... I've contacted them as well ....
for what its worth :)

You have to be careful how you phrase your "complaint".

Except possibly for one or two engineers, the BBC know nothing about the
BBCiPlayer plugin and LMS.

Your complaint will have to make reference to the official BBC vendor
feeds of "Listen Again" data (with URL) and explain as they are used by
3rd party vendors of streaming audio systems.

Otherwise BBC will think your comment is about iPlayer Radio which has
no problems and you will be ignored.


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Post by bpa
You have to be careful how you phrase your "complaint".
Except possibly for one or two engineers, the BBC know nothing about the
BBCiPlayer plugin and LMS.
Your complaint will have to make reference to the official BBC vendor
feeds of "Listen Again" data (with URL) and explain as they are used by
3rd party vendors of streaming audio systems.
Otherwise BBC will think your comment is about iPlayer Radio which has
no problems and you will be ignored.

I'd avoid complaining to the Beeb. Let the 'backroom' boys sort it out!

Ps: is the Audio Factory still in production?



Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS
UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8
speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker; - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE
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Post by castalla
I'd avoid complaining to the Beeb. Let the 'backroom' boys sort it out!
Ps: is the Audio Factory still in production?

The worry is that I think very few vendors use the feed any more and so
the "backroom" boys will not know about the problem. Given that BBC
have said the feeds that Extra uses will be removed next year - it is
necessary to remind BBC there are users of the "official" feed.


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Post by bpa
The worry is that I think very few vendors use the feed any more and so
the "backroom" boys will not know about the problem. Given that BBC
have said the feeds that Extra uses will be removed next year - it is
necessary to remind BBC there are users of the "official" feed.

I see.

On another forum, somebody said they'd received a message from the Beeb
about account login being introduced for 'voice assistant' users. Maybe
the Beeb is introducing an alexa skill?



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Post by castalla
I see.
On another forum, somebody said they'd received a message from the Beeb
about account login being introduced for 'voice assistant' users. Maybe
the Beeb is introducing an alexa skill?

BBC are always experimeting. I think Alexa might be to do with
interactive radio not control see "The Inspection Chamber" on the taster
website ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/inspection-chamber ).
There are also open source projects see https://developer.bbc.com/


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Post by bpa
BBC are always experimeting. I think Alexa might be to do with
interactive radio not control see "The Inspection Chamber" on the taster
website ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/inspection-chamber ).
There are also open source projects see https://developer.bbc.com/

Thanks - looks all a bit like W1AA .... Cool.



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Post by castalla
Thanks - looks all a bit like W1AA .... Cool.

They don't need to look far for script ideas.

Anyhow - it looks like the "Listen Again" problem has been fixed - the
programs missing from Sunday onwards are back so at least there are a
few people doing "real" work.


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Post by bpa
They don't need to look far for script ideas.
Anyhow - it looks like the "Listen Again" problem has been fixed - the
programs missing from Sunday onwards are back so at least there are a
few people doing "real" work.

So ... that's all good, then.

cheers



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I kept it brief :) ..... just asked for any further update and then
referencing the link.....

Post by bpa
You have to be careful how you phrase your "complaint".
Except possibly for one or two engineers, the BBC know nothing about the
BBCiPlayer plugin and LMS.
Your complaint will have to make reference to the official BBC vendor
feeds of "Listen Again" data (with URL) and explain as they are used by
3rd party vendors of streaming audio systems.
Otherwise BBC will think your comment is about iPlayer Radio which has
no problems and you will be ignored.

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Panic over - everything seems back to normal this morning and I can
resume my habitual ways.

A bluetooth speaker and a BBC app is definitely inferior to Squeezebox.
I started casting round for something else and discovered that there
seems to be nothing at a reasonable price and convenience. I was also
shocked to learn that even the esteemed and expensive Sonos doesn't do
BBC radio listen again. I really don't know what Logitec was thinking
when they stopped Squeezebox.


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Post by martinshaw
Panic over - everything seems back to normal this morning and I can
resume my habitual ways.
A bluetooth speaker and a BBC app is definitely inferior to Squeezebox.
I started casting round for something else and discovered that there
seems to be nothing at a reasonable price and convenience. I was also
shocked to learn that even the esteemed and expensive Sonos doesn't do
BBC radio listen again. I really don't know what Logitec was thinking
when they stopped Squeezebox.

The "quality" problem with Bluetooth could be the codec used. I haven't
looked/tried BT for years but I believe aptX is needed to get good
quality. Better alternative technologies would be Airplay or Chromecast.


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BPA

Post by bpa
Please repeat the question here - I'm not going to hunt for a post
amongst a load of other posts which I found by accident.
.

The question does not relate to the BBCiPlayer or to the Logitech
Squeezebox. It relates to Applian's Replay Media Catcher and how to
schedule with it recordings from rtmp streams. So I'm reluctant to post
here. If you suggest a more appropriate forum on another site or on
this ste, that's where I will post.


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